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conflictionBare with me on this entry as it'll be full of random stuff...
...although there's probably nothing new there :P
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The world I touch through the sole of my foot,
Expressed through my mind into the soul of a book.
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I'll start with something light to break you all gently into things, hehe...
...and in a desperate attempt not to lose your attention straight away.
I can't remember how long ago my last post was,
but i've been reasonably busy since then.
I went to Paris for the European Social Forumn.
It started last year in Florence, and furthermore will be in London next year.
Tens of thousands of varying groups (all left wing-ish)...
...and individuals (like myself)...
...join together to discuss what's wrong with the world, politically mostly, and then put forward ideas and so forth on how to solve/tackle these problems.
Many hours of sleep were lost, but much information was gained.
Should hopefully spur ideas in the future.
It ended with a March through Paris of around 100,000 people,
about the same amount (so we're told) that marched through London
which i also took part in.
So the last few weeks have mainly been spent being an 'activist'.
It was a great experience, but I can report that I'll probably not take part in a march again. Unless next years one in London has a March.
Hmmmm...
Well... point being... I don't want to put so much effort in.
It's not for me, mainly because it's the opposite side of the people we're marching against...
...and I also fail to see how bringing a capital city to a stop is 'peaceful'.
*shrug*
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When money was made of Silver and Gold,
We lived a fantasy of treasures untold,
But now it's made of Paper and Metal,
We drown in debts we cannot settle.
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A dark cloud looms above my head in the way of financial burden.
lol.
Too much travelling i guess.
I got bills to pay too...
...rent...
...oops.
I'm going to America soon too, and it looks like I won't have any money there, lol
Just got me thinking, once again, about how money and the system we currently have is based on our past decisions.
I think I finally realize our mistakes.
While moving forwards, we've always tried to reconcile our future with our past...
...this make it incredibly hard to progress
and also leads us to preserve past mistakes in our future lives.
The further you go along a line of advancement in any area,
the harder it is to go back to the beginning and change something
because everything above it is based on that one thing
and changing that will bring everything else into disrepute.
Funny old world.
Let me hexplain ;)
Obviously, I'll be doing this on the western system of money.
I'll attempt to use what little knowledge I have of the east to ponder over their ideas.
As far back as I can remember...
...and with modern historical knowledge I seem to be able to remember back a couple of thousand years or so :P
LoL... ok, lemme start again.
For thousands of years wealth had been based on this material that man found so attractive.
It imprisoned our minds in greed.
Gold.
Sidenote:
Silver ranked a lowly second, nearly becoming first in the late 1800's when a part of the American government were lobbying to have money based on silver instead of Gold, as there was a problem with declining Gold reserves or something.
I'll just be concentrating on 'Gold'. The main player (for a while, long innings anyways)
Anyways...
From the Ancient Egyptian Empire through the Roman Empire to the British Empire,
money was based directly on the value of Gold.
The reason for this 'used' to be quite simple.
Money was made from the damn stuff.
Another side note:
Forgery first started all these thousands of years ago too.
Men would cut the sides off of Gold coins and then either mould other coins or I assume they could exchange the Gold for money (made of Gold (or silver, lol))
So during this phase of 'moneys' existence its value was based on how much Gold we could get out of the ground.
It was a commodity, the same as food or other materials on the market.
When there was less Gold to be dug up, your money could buy more things.
Kinda like an early Wall Street, lol.
Little could they of known that their affinity...
...their attachment...
...their enslavement by the material world and it's most attractive metal...
...would have affects as far reaching as the ones we experience today.
There were some good points back then.
Money actually existed.
All of it was Credit.
An actual existing entity that one could get if they grew some crops or made a chair, etc.
By destroying this when paper and copper/tin/alloy money came about,
we made our situation even more dire.
Thus was born the Debt system.
No longer could one exchange Gold around, but you exchanged it for some money that we have today, but it was still based on the value of Gold.
All the Gold was held in big vaults.
Did you Know? :
- That the Bank of England was created because a group of men loaned our government 2 million pounds... in exchange for this money? The right to print as much money as they desired...
...our enslavement by 'bankers' was pretty much finalized at this point.
Before we were enslaved by debts to bankers, but the debts were actual money.
They actually leant you 500 gold coins, and you actually owed it them back.
Dunno if they had interest back then.
But now debt is a metaphysical thing.
Sidenote 3:
I believe that because it now exists metaphysically...
...thus giving it a kind of existence beyond the physical world...
...it has even more power over us.
It probably became a metaphysical thing before this, but you know... :P
So, where am i going with this?
Well... in the late half of the 1900's it was decided that money would no longer be based on the value of Gold. Since then it's value has sort of been hanging in limbo... changed at the whims of the stock market.
Everything is now based on making sure the price of actual goods don't sore through the roof.
It's all dependent on itself, a complete invention.
This may all be very confusing... it's confusing me...
but in summary...
- Money was made of Gold
- Less Gold meant your money was worth more
- Prices of goods stayed the same
- Debt was still an exchange of real money
- Money was made of paper, still based on value of Gold
- I think this is when the prices of goods also started fluctuating
- Debt could now be metaphysical
- Bankers take over
- Money based on money, no longer on gold
- Prices of goods and money swing around like monkeys
- Bananas are introduced as new currency
- Ok, maybe not this far, stop reading.
So, why did I say all this and bore you to death?
Well, I will quickly put forward a new system, based in England for now.
- Central bank controls all money, but is not in control of state.
- All debts other countries owe us erradicated.
- All non-material debts, like between banks or people, erradicated.
- Remaining debts and savings accounts transferred to central bank.
- Private banks erradicated, it's not a business, and it's not profit driven.
- Price of new goods are stablised at agreed rates i.e. tomato = 10p
- Money represents the value of the goods being exchanged.
- Amount of money in circulation equals the amount of goods in circulation.
My ideas are more complicated than this,
but basically it amounts to the destruction of the competitive capitalist system...
...and the creation of my new 'Cooperative Credit System'.
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I've been thinking a lot about light recently.
Mirrors are messed up things...
...it'd be hard to explain everything I've been thinking.
How does light or the mirror convey distance?
If you make your finger touch the mirror with its tip,
and look at it from the right hand side,
the reflection should logically be pointing to your left.
I was also thinking about primary and secondary and so forth reflections of light.
The first light to reach a mirror is directly from the light bulb, so that's a direct reflection.
The stuff you actually see in the mirror, like the room behind you, is a secondary reflection.
Colours are interesting too... how does light convey colour?
I was looking into wave-particle duality too.
Madness.
lol
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If my hand bitch slaps your ass
and there's no one around to see it
does it still happen?
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On the train ride home from Paris I met this cool guy who studied Theoretical Physics for his degree. He also taught it for 2 years...
...long story as to why it was only for 2 years...
...anyways, i was happy i could keep up with what he was saying,
and call me big headed, but i'm pretty sure i gave him a lot of food for thought.
I believe Beany wrote about this in his lj entry...
...quantum mechanics and observation changing things.
I agree with what you said, because i believe it myself.
You see... I really don't like people doing a certain thing...
...I call this 'thing' "Philosophically removing the problem from the source".
Instead of giving an example i'll keep on topic and use what i'm talking about as the example.
Quantum Physics has weird stuff in it about probabilities of something doing certain things or being in a certain place or having a certain measurement.
For me, it's like a horrible mixture of (bad)philosophy, physics and statistics, all gone wrong.
In philosophy, we already argue that if you can't see something, you don't know it exists, until you look at it again.
The reason I bring statisitcs into this is because of the 'probabilities'.
Gah.
In quantum physics things 'change' when you measure them, i agree with this to a certain extent. Something about measuring velocity alters it's vector position or some crap like that, lol.
What I'm trying to say, is that in Schrodingers Cat example... why the hell does anyone have to observe the partical in order for the cyanide to be released and kill the cat. Like... it's just illogical. It's gonna happen anyway.
There's just too much 'humanism' in science...
...we don't need to exist for everything else to exist.
It just won't exist to us.
Then there's this ridiculous extension of removing the problem from the source...
...the 'third party' observation, where nobody is observing you observing the cat, so you have a probability of existence and other such things.
ARGH!
Look, it's quite simple.
I have two solutions.
a) Everything 'experiences' everything else, that's why it all still exists.
That's why you pencils in the drawer are still there when you go back to them
(unless someone borrowed them)
The drawer is experiencing the pencils.
b) Everything experiences itself.
Like... when i say 'experience' ignore human experience for a second.
Just think about things 'acting' on other things.
Pressure.
Electro-Magnetic forces.
Blah blah.
I'm bored...
Goodnight :)
- - - - - - - -
...although there's probably nothing new there :P
- - - - - - - -
The world I touch through the sole of my foot,
Expressed through my mind into the soul of a book.
- - - - - - - -
I'll start with something light to break you all gently into things, hehe...
...and in a desperate attempt not to lose your attention straight away.
I can't remember how long ago my last post was,
but i've been reasonably busy since then.
I went to Paris for the European Social Forumn.
It started last year in Florence, and furthermore will be in London next year.
Tens of thousands of varying groups (all left wing-ish)...
...and individuals (like myself)...
...join together to discuss what's wrong with the world, politically mostly, and then put forward ideas and so forth on how to solve/tackle these problems.
Many hours of sleep were lost, but much information was gained.
Should hopefully spur ideas in the future.
It ended with a March through Paris of around 100,000 people,
about the same amount (so we're told) that marched through London
which i also took part in.
So the last few weeks have mainly been spent being an 'activist'.
It was a great experience, but I can report that I'll probably not take part in a march again. Unless next years one in London has a March.
Hmmmm...
Well... point being... I don't want to put so much effort in.
It's not for me, mainly because it's the opposite side of the people we're marching against...
...and I also fail to see how bringing a capital city to a stop is 'peaceful'.
*shrug*
- - - - - - - -
When money was made of Silver and Gold,
We lived a fantasy of treasures untold,
But now it's made of Paper and Metal,
We drown in debts we cannot settle.
- - - - - - - -
A dark cloud looms above my head in the way of financial burden.
lol.
Too much travelling i guess.
I got bills to pay too...
...rent...
...oops.
I'm going to America soon too, and it looks like I won't have any money there, lol
Just got me thinking, once again, about how money and the system we currently have is based on our past decisions.
I think I finally realize our mistakes.
While moving forwards, we've always tried to reconcile our future with our past...
...this make it incredibly hard to progress
and also leads us to preserve past mistakes in our future lives.
The further you go along a line of advancement in any area,
the harder it is to go back to the beginning and change something
because everything above it is based on that one thing
and changing that will bring everything else into disrepute.
Funny old world.
Let me hexplain ;)
Obviously, I'll be doing this on the western system of money.
I'll attempt to use what little knowledge I have of the east to ponder over their ideas.
As far back as I can remember...
...and with modern historical knowledge I seem to be able to remember back a couple of thousand years or so :P
LoL... ok, lemme start again.
For thousands of years wealth had been based on this material that man found so attractive.
It imprisoned our minds in greed.
Gold.
Sidenote:
Silver ranked a lowly second, nearly becoming first in the late 1800's when a part of the American government were lobbying to have money based on silver instead of Gold, as there was a problem with declining Gold reserves or something.
I'll just be concentrating on 'Gold'. The main player (for a while, long innings anyways)
Anyways...
From the Ancient Egyptian Empire through the Roman Empire to the British Empire,
money was based directly on the value of Gold.
The reason for this 'used' to be quite simple.
Money was made from the damn stuff.
Another side note:
Forgery first started all these thousands of years ago too.
Men would cut the sides off of Gold coins and then either mould other coins or I assume they could exchange the Gold for money (made of Gold (or silver, lol))
So during this phase of 'moneys' existence its value was based on how much Gold we could get out of the ground.
It was a commodity, the same as food or other materials on the market.
When there was less Gold to be dug up, your money could buy more things.
Kinda like an early Wall Street, lol.
Little could they of known that their affinity...
...their attachment...
...their enslavement by the material world and it's most attractive metal...
...would have affects as far reaching as the ones we experience today.
There were some good points back then.
Money actually existed.
All of it was Credit.
An actual existing entity that one could get if they grew some crops or made a chair, etc.
By destroying this when paper and copper/tin/alloy money came about,
we made our situation even more dire.
Thus was born the Debt system.
No longer could one exchange Gold around, but you exchanged it for some money that we have today, but it was still based on the value of Gold.
All the Gold was held in big vaults.
Did you Know? :
- That the Bank of England was created because a group of men loaned our government 2 million pounds... in exchange for this money? The right to print as much money as they desired...
...our enslavement by 'bankers' was pretty much finalized at this point.
Before we were enslaved by debts to bankers, but the debts were actual money.
They actually leant you 500 gold coins, and you actually owed it them back.
Dunno if they had interest back then.
But now debt is a metaphysical thing.
Sidenote 3:
I believe that because it now exists metaphysically...
...thus giving it a kind of existence beyond the physical world...
...it has even more power over us.
It probably became a metaphysical thing before this, but you know... :P
So, where am i going with this?
Well... in the late half of the 1900's it was decided that money would no longer be based on the value of Gold. Since then it's value has sort of been hanging in limbo... changed at the whims of the stock market.
Everything is now based on making sure the price of actual goods don't sore through the roof.
It's all dependent on itself, a complete invention.
This may all be very confusing... it's confusing me...
but in summary...
- Money was made of Gold
- Less Gold meant your money was worth more
- Prices of goods stayed the same
- Debt was still an exchange of real money
- Money was made of paper, still based on value of Gold
- I think this is when the prices of goods also started fluctuating
- Debt could now be metaphysical
- Bankers take over
- Money based on money, no longer on gold
- Prices of goods and money swing around like monkeys
- Bananas are introduced as new currency
- Ok, maybe not this far, stop reading.
So, why did I say all this and bore you to death?
Well, I will quickly put forward a new system, based in England for now.
- Central bank controls all money, but is not in control of state.
- All debts other countries owe us erradicated.
- All non-material debts, like between banks or people, erradicated.
- Remaining debts and savings accounts transferred to central bank.
- Private banks erradicated, it's not a business, and it's not profit driven.
- Price of new goods are stablised at agreed rates i.e. tomato = 10p
- Money represents the value of the goods being exchanged.
- Amount of money in circulation equals the amount of goods in circulation.
My ideas are more complicated than this,
but basically it amounts to the destruction of the competitive capitalist system...
...and the creation of my new 'Cooperative Credit System'.
- - - - - - - -
I've been thinking a lot about light recently.
Mirrors are messed up things...
...it'd be hard to explain everything I've been thinking.
How does light or the mirror convey distance?
If you make your finger touch the mirror with its tip,
and look at it from the right hand side,
the reflection should logically be pointing to your left.
I was also thinking about primary and secondary and so forth reflections of light.
The first light to reach a mirror is directly from the light bulb, so that's a direct reflection.
The stuff you actually see in the mirror, like the room behind you, is a secondary reflection.
Colours are interesting too... how does light convey colour?
I was looking into wave-particle duality too.
Madness.
lol
- - - - - - - -
If my hand bitch slaps your ass
and there's no one around to see it
does it still happen?
- - - - - - - -
On the train ride home from Paris I met this cool guy who studied Theoretical Physics for his degree. He also taught it for 2 years...
...long story as to why it was only for 2 years...
...anyways, i was happy i could keep up with what he was saying,
and call me big headed, but i'm pretty sure i gave him a lot of food for thought.
I believe Beany wrote about this in his lj entry...
...quantum mechanics and observation changing things.
I agree with what you said, because i believe it myself.
You see... I really don't like people doing a certain thing...
...I call this 'thing' "Philosophically removing the problem from the source".
Instead of giving an example i'll keep on topic and use what i'm talking about as the example.
Quantum Physics has weird stuff in it about probabilities of something doing certain things or being in a certain place or having a certain measurement.
For me, it's like a horrible mixture of (bad)philosophy, physics and statistics, all gone wrong.
In philosophy, we already argue that if you can't see something, you don't know it exists, until you look at it again.
The reason I bring statisitcs into this is because of the 'probabilities'.
Gah.
In quantum physics things 'change' when you measure them, i agree with this to a certain extent. Something about measuring velocity alters it's vector position or some crap like that, lol.
What I'm trying to say, is that in Schrodingers Cat example... why the hell does anyone have to observe the partical in order for the cyanide to be released and kill the cat. Like... it's just illogical. It's gonna happen anyway.
There's just too much 'humanism' in science...
...we don't need to exist for everything else to exist.
It just won't exist to us.
Then there's this ridiculous extension of removing the problem from the source...
...the 'third party' observation, where nobody is observing you observing the cat, so you have a probability of existence and other such things.
ARGH!
Look, it's quite simple.
I have two solutions.
a) Everything 'experiences' everything else, that's why it all still exists.
That's why you pencils in the drawer are still there when you go back to them
(unless someone borrowed them)
The drawer is experiencing the pencils.
b) Everything experiences itself.
Like... when i say 'experience' ignore human experience for a second.
Just think about things 'acting' on other things.
Pressure.
Electro-Magnetic forces.
Blah blah.
I'm bored...
Goodnight :)
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Date: 2003-11-25 03:30 pm (UTC)As for the rest of it - my Physics isn't good enough to explain to me the 'seeing' of things. But, yeah. We cannot apply micro physics to a macro universe, for a whole bunch of reasons. And I probably know none of them, due to the educational necessity of lies-to-children :p
But the maths and the stats and the physics are all beautifully useful. Of course, the beauty is in my opinion ;) But they can explain what we see. I would imagine that most physicists shy away from the philosophy, except in an interesting side-ways point of view. We've got atoms to crack!
'Colour' is just different wavelengths of light in the e-m spectrum interpreted by our eyes. The colour we see is... actually, I don't know about surface reflection. I know what I was told at physics GCSE, but I don't know how true it is...
What were you looking at in wave-particle duality? I'm starting to deal with the basics of that sort of maths at the moment. Of course, it's all vastly more complicated than I know :) And we mostly avoid the question 'what is a photon?'
Debt was around before banks, I think. There are references to loans in early Old Testament writings, so they've been around a bit. But I think they were mainly dealing to lending people stuff on a person to person basis. I forget, it's been a while since I read about the correct way to cut up lambs for sacrifice and things. And the setting up of safe cities for people to run to if they actidentally kill someone. I think they had money at that point, though, so maybe they were down that path already.
"For thousands of years wealth had been based on this material that man found so attractive.
It imprisoned our minds in greed.
Gold."
Wouldn't it be the greed that imprisioned our mind, with the outlet of that being gold?
But yeah, money systems are really odd.
Although I thought of an interesting way of testing these ideas. Start up a small, mostly isolated community, and introduce them. If they work, then gradualy introduce them on a larger scale until they (a) cover everything or (b) break down.
Or rely on the old survival of the fittest, but that is... odd. As always
Oh, one extra thing. Maybe the whole loan thing started with some guy lending his friend some money for interest, and thinking that he could probably live without doing much work if he lent a lot of people money. Or maybe a rich person thinking he can use his money more usefully if he lent it to people and got interest on it. If that's true, it might require a re-wiring of the human condition :>
Also, there used to be lots of money printers and lots of money systems. But then the government stopped allowing new money printers, because the economy was getting messed up with lots of currencies, and the money printers gradually consolidated into one, the Bank of England. I think that was how it worked - I studied it for AS history, was quite interesting.
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