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conflictionIndeed.
Seriously, like... i really do think that any dreams of equality and the removal of anything considered 'bad' in this world ...
...is a waste of time, and contradictory.
...does this not make any sense to anyone else?
The world consists of opposites...
...without an opposite, you couldn't compare something...
...without comparison you could never 'know' what it is.
Without Happiness, you'd never know Sadness...
...works both ways.
To attempt to erradicate everything that is 'negative' in this world,
would be to destroy all that is 'positive'.
Yes or no?
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Or somewhere inbetween?
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Which leads me nicely onto 'grey' things.
That's the cloudy part inbetween two quite clear, but opposing, concepts.
Such as... what is lawful what is not.
What is moral and what is not.
There are always examples that are hard to define by just two terms.
There must be a flexibility in the Law, for example,
to account for these 'grey' instances.
I believe this flexibility could be achieved by a well trained judge...
...or panel of judges...
...and the jury...
...upon 'interpretation' of the law, and the implementation of it.
The Law itself, will remain ridged, however.
None of this annoying, and time wasting, setting the law by 'precedent'.
It'll be a simple case of extrapolating whether or not the convicted has harmed another person, or brought harm to them.
Also whether they caused harm by INaction...
...which is just as imported as causing harm by action.
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Sorry Phatboy, that's all my brain can muster of 'grey' areas.
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Now for some 'religious' schpeel... seems to get peoples blood flowing ;)
Oh, first... i've been at pains for the past few days or weeks...
...can't really tell, it's all fading into one :P...
...in being able to express my thoughts, by either posting or commenting.
Mainly because of that whole 'thing' that happened between me and Beany.
Don't get me wrong, it was cool... afterwards... I learnt a lot...
...about myself...
...about Beany...
...about Caz...
...name dropping is fun :) Makes you feel a part of the action ;)...
...and about life in general.
Was very valuable.
I just didn't want to cause conflict anymore...
...but now i say... hmmm...
...hang on...
...am i to allow my freedom of speech to be reduced?
NO!
I respond.
John Stuart Mill agrees with me... well... he would of, if he didn't die so many decades ago...
...he says that an unchallenged idea or belief or opinion is not worth holding at all.
So even if i'm wrong, it can be used as an example for others to learn from.
Also, in expressing my 'wrong' ideas, the responses will teach me.
Anywho... prolonging the inevitable...
I stole this anyways... lol... but i thought it was rather profound.
It's about the existance of God...
...a concept I'm comfortable debating...
"...does God exist outside of his own Creation? And if God does exist outside of his Creation, then why did he create us? Did he create us simply so that we CHOOSE HIM? Did God create the all magnificent wonders of the Universe only to tell you that everything around you and everyone you love is second only to him? If that's the case, then why Free Will? Is that the biggest joke of them all, that we were blessed with Free Will just to fully gratify God when we finally DO choose him? IF indeed God existed outside of his Creation, then already God would be flawed, for who created HIM? And if God would punish those for not choosing him, then he IS flawed. Furthermore, if God would want you to get on your knees and outright worship him (be it by fear or by "loving encouragement") as we do today and have been for thousands of years, then indeed this God who created us just so we can stroke his heavenly ego IS TRULY FLAWED. If you, for instance, were the unconditionally loving God mentioned in the Holy Bible, would YOU want your creation to worship you? If the answer is yes, then you are flawed."
Thoughts?
Feelings?
Must of provoked one of the two :P
'provoke'... hmmm... if i was to edit this to make it sound friendlier, i'd get rid of this word.
But I'm just typin what i think, sorry if it offends you...
...but life is offensive.
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Other ideas...
...hmmm...
More 'energy level' revelations...
this time to do with emotional investment ina situation.
If you are worried about someones where-abouts, you're investing negative emotion into the situation, right?
Torturing yourself.
If they return safely though, you feel very very happy...
...all that negative emotion becomes positive, right?
What if you just didn't worry about them?
When they return you'll not feel particularly any different.
Maybe just tell yourself "I told you they'd be back".
But when they don't return at all...
...what then?
In case A... negative emotional investment...
...i reckon that due to the small change in emotion...
...i.e. 'negative' to slightly more 'negative'...
...it'll have less of an impact than if you didn't worry in the first place.
The drop in emotion in this case, will be quite vast, with feelings of guilt too.
The worst of all though, is positive emotional investment.
When they return safely, i guess you'll generally stay happy.
Hardly any change or effect on your current state.
It's when they don't return that you experience the largest drop.
From top to bottom.
Ouch.
- - - - - - - -
No real conclusion, just throwing ideas around :)
Also read up on sleep patterns and disorders, for fun.
Been looking into breastfeeding and its benefits.
Alsorts.
Got an Essay for Thursday for Philosophy of Law...
...time for my lecturer to feel my views...
...the closed minded, prejudice, and plain WRONG lecturer that she is.
If i'm marked low, i'll appeal...
...she's obviously indoctrinating the class to parrot her.
- - - - - - - -
Sorry if you took offence at anything i said,
but it's all healthy and a part of life.
Anyways... I'm cool...
...got lot's (for now) off my chest...
...still gonna carry on thinking.
Until next time,
Take Care :)
Seriously, like... i really do think that any dreams of equality and the removal of anything considered 'bad' in this world ...
...is a waste of time, and contradictory.
...does this not make any sense to anyone else?
The world consists of opposites...
...without an opposite, you couldn't compare something...
...without comparison you could never 'know' what it is.
Without Happiness, you'd never know Sadness...
...works both ways.
To attempt to erradicate everything that is 'negative' in this world,
would be to destroy all that is 'positive'.
Yes or no?
- - - - - - - -
Or somewhere inbetween?
- - - - - - - -
Which leads me nicely onto 'grey' things.
That's the cloudy part inbetween two quite clear, but opposing, concepts.
Such as... what is lawful what is not.
What is moral and what is not.
There are always examples that are hard to define by just two terms.
There must be a flexibility in the Law, for example,
to account for these 'grey' instances.
I believe this flexibility could be achieved by a well trained judge...
...or panel of judges...
...and the jury...
...upon 'interpretation' of the law, and the implementation of it.
The Law itself, will remain ridged, however.
None of this annoying, and time wasting, setting the law by 'precedent'.
It'll be a simple case of extrapolating whether or not the convicted has harmed another person, or brought harm to them.
Also whether they caused harm by INaction...
...which is just as imported as causing harm by action.
- - - - - - - -
Sorry Phatboy, that's all my brain can muster of 'grey' areas.
- - - - - - - -
Now for some 'religious' schpeel... seems to get peoples blood flowing ;)
Oh, first... i've been at pains for the past few days or weeks...
...can't really tell, it's all fading into one :P...
...in being able to express my thoughts, by either posting or commenting.
Mainly because of that whole 'thing' that happened between me and Beany.
Don't get me wrong, it was cool... afterwards... I learnt a lot...
...about myself...
...about Beany...
...about Caz...
...name dropping is fun :) Makes you feel a part of the action ;)...
...and about life in general.
Was very valuable.
I just didn't want to cause conflict anymore...
...but now i say... hmmm...
...hang on...
...am i to allow my freedom of speech to be reduced?
NO!
I respond.
John Stuart Mill agrees with me... well... he would of, if he didn't die so many decades ago...
...he says that an unchallenged idea or belief or opinion is not worth holding at all.
So even if i'm wrong, it can be used as an example for others to learn from.
Also, in expressing my 'wrong' ideas, the responses will teach me.
Anywho... prolonging the inevitable...
I stole this anyways... lol... but i thought it was rather profound.
It's about the existance of God...
...a concept I'm comfortable debating...
"...does God exist outside of his own Creation? And if God does exist outside of his Creation, then why did he create us? Did he create us simply so that we CHOOSE HIM? Did God create the all magnificent wonders of the Universe only to tell you that everything around you and everyone you love is second only to him? If that's the case, then why Free Will? Is that the biggest joke of them all, that we were blessed with Free Will just to fully gratify God when we finally DO choose him? IF indeed God existed outside of his Creation, then already God would be flawed, for who created HIM? And if God would punish those for not choosing him, then he IS flawed. Furthermore, if God would want you to get on your knees and outright worship him (be it by fear or by "loving encouragement") as we do today and have been for thousands of years, then indeed this God who created us just so we can stroke his heavenly ego IS TRULY FLAWED. If you, for instance, were the unconditionally loving God mentioned in the Holy Bible, would YOU want your creation to worship you? If the answer is yes, then you are flawed."
Thoughts?
Feelings?
Must of provoked one of the two :P
'provoke'... hmmm... if i was to edit this to make it sound friendlier, i'd get rid of this word.
But I'm just typin what i think, sorry if it offends you...
...but life is offensive.
- - - - - - - -
Other ideas...
...hmmm...
More 'energy level' revelations...
this time to do with emotional investment ina situation.
If you are worried about someones where-abouts, you're investing negative emotion into the situation, right?
Torturing yourself.
If they return safely though, you feel very very happy...
...all that negative emotion becomes positive, right?
What if you just didn't worry about them?
When they return you'll not feel particularly any different.
Maybe just tell yourself "I told you they'd be back".
But when they don't return at all...
...what then?
In case A... negative emotional investment...
...i reckon that due to the small change in emotion...
...i.e. 'negative' to slightly more 'negative'...
...it'll have less of an impact than if you didn't worry in the first place.
The drop in emotion in this case, will be quite vast, with feelings of guilt too.
The worst of all though, is positive emotional investment.
When they return safely, i guess you'll generally stay happy.
Hardly any change or effect on your current state.
It's when they don't return that you experience the largest drop.
From top to bottom.
Ouch.
- - - - - - - -
No real conclusion, just throwing ideas around :)
Also read up on sleep patterns and disorders, for fun.
Been looking into breastfeeding and its benefits.
Alsorts.
Got an Essay for Thursday for Philosophy of Law...
...time for my lecturer to feel my views...
...the closed minded, prejudice, and plain WRONG lecturer that she is.
If i'm marked low, i'll appeal...
...she's obviously indoctrinating the class to parrot her.
- - - - - - - -
Sorry if you took offence at anything i said,
but it's all healthy and a part of life.
Anyways... I'm cool...
...got lot's (for now) off my chest...
...still gonna carry on thinking.
Until next time,
Take Care :)
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about time :P
Date: 2003-11-09 05:07 pm (UTC)Sorry about the delay, i guess it just wasn't time yet.
Before i begin, is it wrong for me to ask to come to see you, or is there only room for two?
I'll send something up with the guys... memory allowing.
Anywho...
After attempting to answer the 'punishment' thing, i gave up... lol... too hot a topic.
The bit about 'seeming stupid'... i don't understand what that relates to...
Worship... well in that case... I'm grateful for all kinds of creation, 'God' is 'Creation'... therefore... i'm grateful for/to 'God'. Hehe.
Yeah, you're right, that is an odd metaphor... I meant that with 'Competitive Capitalism', everything becomes driven by money rather than the love of science. Kinda thing.
What causes me to say 'God' is 'Creation'? That's a big one. Firstly, in order for things to make logical sense, 'God' cannot exist outside of 'Creation', for then the question needs to be asked "What/Who created 'God'?" Coupled with the 'trait' of 'God'... that of Omnipresence, it makes sense that 'God' is 'Creation'. That stops an infinite removal from the topic in question, and leaves us with the main question "Where did all this come from?" Personally, looking at how everything seems to work... it's always been here. It was funny seeing that show about String Theory last week... there was a bit about the scientists looking further into things because they couldn't accept the answer 'infinity' from their current knowledge. It's now actually Philosophy they are putting forward as 'science'. Anyways, other reasons include the fact that I'm trying to account for all the other 'Ascended Masters' of the world. Maths and other such patterns and things seem to also show a sign of coolness. I think 'God' can be found in life and yourself, and each other. All over the place.
"if you give people the chance to remove themselves from birth, stop the pregnancy or whatever, they wouldn't." You realise that people don't have that choice. That's one of the existential problems of our lives... none of us chose to be here. You couldn't give someone that choice either, if they could respond with an intelligable answer, they'd never have experienced life to tell you whether they want to live it. Life is however something animals in nature and us too, seem to fight to keep. Regardless of all of this though... 'God' 'deciding' it's better for us to exist, than to not exist, is tantamount to also denying us free-will. An interesting paradox whether people believe in 'God' or not. There is no choice. Odd, huh?
"It seems, therefore, that they think the world is better with them in it." Funnily... i disagree with this statement... most people seem to think life sucks... regardless of whether they're in it or not. People have no hope anymore... i find that disturbing... but who do we have to blame but ourselves? Although not directly responsible, 'we' still made this. 'We' have to change it.
They were right? Hmmm... how had you sinned, and how had that turned you away? As you know, i'm cautious of this 'Sin'. Obviously, being a believer, but in a different way, i believe it to be an act of futility to deny 'God'... as in my 'faith'... that'd mean denying 'Life' itself. I do however conceed that in their eyes, you may of turned away from 'their/your' 'God'... catch my drift?
Re: about time :P
Date: 2003-11-10 11:22 am (UTC)How would you send something up with Matt, Kenny & Caz, you're all in different places?
I'm not in a philosophical mood at the moment, so I think I'll just say a little bit, and may add more. Possibly when I don't have exams glaring down my neck. Metaphorically glaring, actual exams glaring would be too scary.
Just occured to me that anyone could cease their existance at any point... Then maybe they do think the world is better with them in it? And most people you know think life sucks? I only know a couple like that, where'd you hang?
They were conversly right, sorry, should have been clearer - I carried on behaving in much the same way, and I despite the questioning I didn't loose faith. I think, if anything, it got stronger. The whole situation was a lot more complex than that... but it'd take a while to tell the whole story, and it's not too interesting.
As for Sin (see your other comment), I can't believe I actually wrote 'Sin is where God isn't'... I normally try to avoid cliches. But hey, lets go with that. It depends on the tone or voice, it's either a threat, or a warning. If it's a threat, then it's bad, but if it's a warning, then it's good. I think. Could be both? Trying to get into the head of God again, doesn't work too well.
Sad is undesirable, due to chemical releases in the brain, apparently, but I would think that being sad because someone close died, or something important broke, would be a good reaction to it. If they weren't sad, it'd probably be cause to be concerned.
Thank you for replying - I'll write something oin your other post, soon. The God thing is interesting, it got me thinking, and I'll write more about it, God willing, in a little bit. But that requires concentration, and that needs to be expended elsewhere - if that's ok?
And no, you haven't offended me ;) I don't often get offended by ideas or questions, just sometimes stuff that goes with them. I can't unreservedly say I'm sorry if I offended you - it wouldn't be true. I am sorry if I needlessly caused offense, though. Which is almost as good ;)