You know it had to come :p it's more interesting that way.
TAOIST: Regard your neighbour's gain as your own gain, and your neighbour's loss as your own loss.
I think this one seems to have both stop doing, and start doing, but without any action or concentrating on the individual, in a more global sense.
CHRISTIAN: All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them.
also noticed that the Christian (white middle aged men run the world) version... ...sounds similar, but has been switched around. Which can breed revenge and such things.
How can it breed revenge and such? It would take some twisted logic - I guess if you wanted people to punch you, using this line alone could justify punching others. But with the some of the other ones you could do that too. I quite like this one - mine is the only one that is an instruction to activly help :)
ISLAMIC: No one of you is a believer until SHE desires for HER SISTER that which SHE desires for HERself.
I think it's funny that you insist God is a woman. Or a man, either. Even in your system, if God is everything (kinda fashionable at the moment, but hey :p) then he's about 50/50.
I changed the Islamic one to relate to the female form. Mainly for two reasons i can share at this time. 1) God is a woman... man is evil. 2) Even Scientifically, we're all, technically, sisters. We were all women once. We also came from a woman. We're all daughters. Women give life. These are facts. (Although my interpretation of the facts are not fact)
1) Hmmm, putting chicks on a pedastal there man. Why do you say this?
2) Genetically, I was never a woman. For the first few weeks, women and men grow in the same way, but with my gene system, there is no way that I could be a fully functioning woman. I might be able to be a 'woman' with a sex change operation, but my genes aren't wired up for carrying kids.
3) A woman cannot give life on her own. If she could, she wouldn't be a she, she would become a combination of male and female, thus asexual. The female is the one who carries the child, I think.
religion is bad
This is one of the most odd things I hear. I get the same thing from Christians the whole time 'Christianity isn't a religion, it's a relationship'. Apart from my object to cliches, at it's basics, a religion is a group of people with commonly held beliefs. I could possibly see how institutionised religion is bad, because it can draw away from the main point of the whole thing.
No matter how pure the message may be in the beginning, as soon as it's put to paper by man, it becomes corrupt. It also stops people taking responsibilty for themselves, and makes them rely on some saviour to help them. It gives 'evil' the chance to control people. Religion is Control.
You say pen to paper - surely the problem is when things are read. Writing is the way of communicating things, more lasting than words. And the whole responsibility thing, on the whole, the Christians I know take a lot more responsibility for themselves, their lives and the people around them than the unbelivers I know. I don't know too many people from other faiths to comment.
Most religions don't give you a saviour, that's quite a unique Christian claim, if my comparative religions are correct. They give you a set of principles, a way to be saved, but Christianity gives you a person who says these are the rules, but you can't keep them, so there's another solution.
I guess I think people aren't good enough. Not that we're inherintly evil, just that we do bad stuff, and we're not able to fix it. We're not smart enough or strong enough.
I would say more, but I've got Japanese now :) So, Sayonara.
And as for the revolution, I'll join, sure, but I haven't found anything about, well anything, that impresses me quite as much as Christ has. So I guess there's room.
Peace
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Date: 2003-10-06 08:40 am (UTC)TAOIST: Regard your neighbour's gain as your own gain, and your neighbour's loss as your own loss.
I think this one seems to have both stop doing, and start doing, but without any action or concentrating on the individual, in a more global sense.
CHRISTIAN: All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them.
also noticed that the Christian (white middle aged men run the world) version...
...sounds similar, but has been switched around. Which can breed revenge and such things.
How can it breed revenge and such? It would take some twisted logic - I guess if you wanted people to punch you, using this line alone could justify punching others. But with the some of the other ones you could do that too. I quite like this one - mine is the only one that is an instruction to activly help :)
ISLAMIC: No one of you is a believer until SHE desires for HER SISTER
that which SHE desires for HERself.
I think it's funny that you insist God is a woman. Or a man, either. Even in your system, if God is everything (kinda fashionable at the moment, but hey :p) then he's about 50/50.
I changed the Islamic one to relate to the female form.
Mainly for two reasons i can share at this time.
1) God is a woman... man is evil.
2) Even Scientifically, we're all, technically, sisters.
We were all women once. We also came from a woman. We're
all daughters. Women give life. These are facts.
(Although my interpretation of the facts are not fact)
1) Hmmm, putting chicks on a pedastal there man. Why do you say this?
2) Genetically, I was never a woman. For the first few weeks, women and men grow in the same way, but with my gene system, there is no way that I could be a fully functioning woman. I might be able to be a 'woman' with a sex change operation, but my genes aren't wired up for carrying kids.
3) A woman cannot give life on her own. If she could, she wouldn't be a she, she would become a combination of male and female, thus asexual. The female is the one who carries the child, I think.
religion is bad
This is one of the most odd things I hear. I get the same thing from Christians the whole time 'Christianity isn't a religion, it's a relationship'. Apart from my object to cliches, at it's basics, a religion is a group of people with commonly held beliefs. I could possibly see how institutionised religion is bad, because it can draw away from the main point of the whole thing.
No matter how pure the message may be in the beginning, as soon as it's put to paper by man, it becomes corrupt.
It also stops people taking responsibilty for themselves, and makes them rely on some saviour to help them.
It gives 'evil' the chance to control people.
Religion is Control.
You say pen to paper - surely the problem is when things are read. Writing is the way of communicating things, more lasting than words. And the whole responsibility thing, on the whole, the Christians I know take a lot more responsibility for themselves, their lives and the people around them than the unbelivers I know. I don't know too many people from other faiths to comment.
Most religions don't give you a saviour, that's quite a unique Christian claim, if my comparative religions are correct. They give you a set of principles, a way to be saved, but Christianity gives you a person who says these are the rules, but you can't keep them, so there's another solution.
I guess I think people aren't good enough. Not that we're inherintly evil, just that we do bad stuff, and we're not able to fix it. We're not smart enough or strong enough.
I would say more, but I've got Japanese now :) So, Sayonara.
And as for the revolution, I'll join, sure, but I haven't found anything about, well anything, that impresses me quite as much as Christ has. So I guess there's room.
Peace